Worldwidesax - Fine Vintage Saxophones
Worldwidesax.com is a Saxophone repair shop that also buys, completely rebuilds and resells Vintage Professional Saxophones only. Customers can see and hear what we have available at this website. (by appointment only). We are not a "music store". click here for answers about rebuild pricing questions, or for our location or payment info. We are located in WA state, twenty minutes north of Seattle, WWS business hours are Pacific time. We don't accept credit cards in the shop, but you can use your credit card to pay through Pay Pal... just log into your account and use the "send money" tab to make your deposit, or payment, to worldwidesax@verizon.net Please add a note in the message area, that states what it's for, with serial or other description, if possible. Become
a Fan of WorldwideSax.com on We have a new email address ! E-mail "Sarge" or Chadd with questions about Worldwidesax stock, at: worldwidesax@gmail.com |
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Below are the links to the various pages of the site, link access changes as you visit other pages, if you get stuck, use your back button to come back to the home page and click around again. If you wish to schedule a rebuild, or purchase one of our saxes (and it still needs to be rebuilt), send us a 50% deposit to hold your place in my work schedule. I work from a published schedule (see left margin) so that your sax will only be out of your possession a couple weeks, while i do the actual work, it does not have to just sit on the shop floor, until it's turn comes up... you send it to arrive on schedule and we return it on schedule. E-mail "the sarge" with questions about our vintage saxes at: worldwidesax@gmail.com Click the links above to see what's in stock. If a horns says "just rebuilt", then it's ready to go, saxes that say "scheduled for a rebuild" are waiting for the work to be done, but it will be included in the posted price. If a sax says "ON TRIAL" someone is taking advantage of our "Three Day Trial" policy (See Info and Orders page). Here is a pic of some custom resonator work. We can size the reso to your tonehole, or whatever you like. We can get you virtually any resonator made, my favorite is the Resotech solid silver reso. Check out our new page all about relacquers
NEW! WE DO GOLD AND SILVER ELECTRO-PLATING That's right, we now have a: GOLD STAR Pro plating system
Our Work Schedule 2010: 4-13-10 Gold Plated The Martin Soprano 64,xxx: WWS horn gets a Vintage Standard Rebuild WWS Done 4-18-10 Silver The Martin Tenor 184K "USMC": Done 5-7-10 Buffet SDA Alto 18K: Done 5-14-10 Armstrong Low A Baritone: Done 5-25-10 Conn 10M: Done 5-28-10 Martin Committee 2 Alto: WWS Done 6-1-10 J. Keilwerth 1934 New King Alto: Nickle plated WWS horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos. WWS Done 6-11-10 The Martin Alto: WWS horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos. WWS Done 6-17-10 Silver Buescher Big B: Silver plated WWS horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos for customer. Burnham Done 6-24-10 1948 Conn 6m Naked Lady: a Chadd horn #327K gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos and black Saxgourmet pads. Chadd Done 7-2-10 Buescher 400 Tenor #505K: WWS horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with Prestini rivetless dome metal resos. WWS Done 7-8-10 1928 Silver Conn Chu Alto: Customer horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos. Gowin DONE 7-20-10 King Super 20 Alto #415K: WWS horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos. WWS Done 7-28-10 Conn 6m: customer horn gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with flat metal resos. Nordquist In Progress 7-28-10 11945 The Martin Tenor: WWS horn 153K gets a Standard Vintage Rebuild with Seamless Domed resos. WWS In Progress If you wish to schedule a rebuild, or purchase one of our saxes and it still needs to be rebuilt, send us a 50% deposit and we will schedule it's rebuild before any of our other worldwidesax.com inventory. Everybody loves these new Kangaroo skin pads, aka Saxgourmet Pads and you can get them from Curt, at musicmedic.com you can request that any WWS stock be rebuilt with them, or just click this link and order some for yourself.
Hard to find: Here is a helpful outline of SML serial Numbers: Serial
Number / Year 0001
– 3000 / 1934 to 1940 3000
– 5500 / 1940 to 1945 5500
– 8000 / 1945 to 1950 8000
– 12000 / 1950 to 1955 12000
– 16000 / 1955 to 1960 16000
– 19000 / 1960 to 1965 22000
– 24000 / 1970 to 1975 24000
– 26000 / 1975 to 1980 Here is a helpful outline of Keilwerth serial Numbers: Keilwerth Serial Numbers: 1925: 0-800 1933-5: 9000 1941: 18,500 1947: #20,000 1953: #23,000 1958: #28,000 1960: #38,000 1962: #43,000 1964: #49,000 1966: #55,000 1971: #69,000 1978: #79,000 1986: #91,000 1993. #99,100 1996. #104,00 1998: #109,000 Keilwerth made The New King and Tone King as their main brand names, from 1932 to 1969 or so, but there were always stencils, like Edgeware and later Couf. Here are few of the other names you may find on Keilwerth made horns. The new king and tone king saxes were identical except for a high F# key on the tone king model, but keilwerth marketed the Tone King as the "deluxe" Pro model and the New King as the "standard" Pro model Known Keilwerth Stencils: Couf Superba 1 & 2 Royalist Conn DJH Buffet Edgeware Marco Vincent Albert Martelle Winsall Tam Bundy Special Armstrong Heritage King Tempo Champion Calvert Deluxe Silvertone Hammerschmidt (sopranos) Keilwerth copiers, such as Amati, Dörfler & Jörka (1949 to 1968, then purchased by Keilwerth) and B&S H.Genet Roxy Jubilee Voss Silvertone Rene Dumont Keilwerth relatives: Max Keilwerth and Richard Keilwerth (Graslitz) made saxes under the names: Weltklang (baritones only) Senator Hohner Here is a handy chart for King zephyr series: Zephyr
and Zephyr Special 1945 was the beginning of King's Super
20's (s/n 272xxx)
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Relacquers and Restorations
I wanted to weigh in my opinion on Relacquers and Restorations, because i get almost daily emails, wanting to know what i think about them. A vintage horn is heavier and more solid than today's Chinese, Taiwanese or Japanese horns... and can usually take one relac/buffing, without any real ill effects... but many "50 plus years" horns have been relacquered 2, even 3 times. By the time this happens, weight is lost from the horn and the sound does change. Take a look at a sax that has been buffed and relacquered so many times, the engraving is virtually gone. This is not a wise choice, for a potential buyer. Now, restorations, like my silver plating jobs, work great, if a horn has only been relacquered once... the weight is added back on, with the new coat of silver and the engravings are restored (by re-Engraving) to bring back the beauty of the horn. My opinion is the best thing you can do for a overbuffed, dented up horn is to play it until you can get yourself something better. You will know "better" when you see it, after you have worked your way through a few ebay disasters... More Relacquer Info I have received so many questions and requests about Vintage instrument finishes and lacquers, that I have created this page to try to help answer your questions. There are many tricks to uncovering the history of a sax, it's history of repairs and care. There are also as many tricks to cover it up as well. A really good refinish will look just like the original finish. Sometimes when you see an ad, it will say Factory Relacquer...the reason this is desirable, is the factory will usually have the exact color tint formula, for an authentic look. An elderly Selmer should have a dark gold hue to it. As it ages, it will take on a sort of brownish-red highlight near the edges of some areas. This is usually because the original technician, many years ago, polished and cleaned all the acid and residue, off the main bell, but missed some at the outside edges. This continues to oxidize under the lacquer and cause color variations. A 40's instrument without any blemishes or discoloration could be a relacquer. A older instrument with a light gold finish like a Yamaha is probably not original. Runs in the lacquer are a dead give-away. Look for paint that has sags or runs off of posts... then it almost surely is a relaq. Another good way to tell, is if the lacquer fills in and smoothes out the engraved areas of the bell and serial number location. Original engravers received the horn after it had been lacquered, and then cut the engraving, by hand, through the lacquer, into the bell or other areas. This was frequently done with a temporary tattoo, called a STENCIL, (a drawing of the pattern they are going to engrave on the sax was called a stencil) hence the term "Conn stencil" etc. The engraver would transfer the stencil pattern onto the bell and then follow it's pattern as he engraved. Yet another give-away is to look for fine scratches under the lacquer. When the finish is removed, the buffing process can leave tiny lines in the metal. These are then lacquered over and can be seen where it was hard to do the fine buffing and rouge polishing process, like behind the bell, around the keyholes, etc. Many times red rouge compound can be found inside the toneholes too. That said, many fine horns, such as mid 60's Selmer have buffing lines under original lacquer... sometimes rouge in the horn too. this is normal and sometimes happened because they hurried their work too much, trying to keep up with production. The most difficult "tell" is the depth of the engraving. It should be clear and deep and a little rough to the touch. If the instrument has had the original lacquer buffed off, it takes a couple thousandths of an inch of metal off the engraved area and lightens the engraving. It is most difficult to tell the engraving depth on French instruments from the 40's and 50's. The French seem to engrave very lightly, and this makes the depth tell difficult. When in doubt, take it to the very best vintage sax specialist, in your area for a 2nd opinion. I also frequently see acid bleed and copper bleed under the finish on Selmers. This was probably due to an overall rushing the manufacturing, assembly and finishing, in order to keep up with the overwhelming demand for Super Balanced Action and Mark VI saxes. A little solder acid under the finish, not thoroughly cleaned off, will show up years later as discoloration. There are several things that will cause discoloration, but they are considered part of the "original" finish and therefore do not detract from the value or playability of the instrument. Here is a typical
picture of a relacquered finish: thanks, sarge
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